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kiwi_2o1:
Thanks Oliver and John. I have a few books but don't believe they help as much as learning time at a table, with a mentor or help from interactive software.

Software. I would recommend BM2000. I've had it for a few years, return to it every now and again and still haven't mastered all its hands. A nice feature (one that an old partner just hates and won't use it for that reason) is that if you make a poor play, or not the optimal one, it will move around defensive holdings to injure you. You might think, "OK, I'll finesse in D's this time on second try (as it was in the East hand) only to find its now with West." Still down :) The program isn't faulty but your plan. It has a help movie for each problem and a fine range of levels from ordinary to expert.

As for books, two I'd recommend from Mike Lawrence, on card combinations and how to read your opponents cards. Not too hard but very instructive.

Secondly like Oliver other experts run tutorials on bbo too. e.g. Hondo77, Howard. Yes a problem is that it only fits some time zones but there are others. He gives great advice, has instructive hands (only 6 every session so you don't fall off your perch) and its the pressure of real bidding and play. Its free and he is often asking for people to sit. His site, also in aabridge has help and movies for all sets so you can return to play them yourself or to see what others did.

Generally I've found in our group, too many want to just play and spend little or no time at the table discussing play and defence. And many get very defensive if one asks to talk over plays etc. Just playing for fun is fine but if one is serious enough about the game to use OCP then improving card play has to match it.

OK what can the family do about it?

OliverC:
Well Roger Pfister was trying play sessions on a Thursday and it's bombed, because nobody would sit :)

kiwi_2o1:
OH dear. People are afraid of making errors.  ::) Good on Roger for trying.

Curls77:

--- Quote from: kiwi_2o1 on March 31, 2017, 03:20:13 PM ---OH dear. People are afraid of making errors.  ::) Good on Roger for trying.
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I am guilty as charged  ???
BUT, I was only one guilty of "that crime". Yesterday other 5-6 OCP players/students that attended Roger's session played. Last week, he could hardly feel table with 4. And our OCP community is 10 times that, so question here is why they never show?


--- Quote from: OliverC on March 30, 2017, 08:29:00 AM ---Indeed, many people take the view that the bidding system you use is an entirely minor consideration, and that most of the time you should concentrate on improving your play.
I don't really have the time to teach all of this stuff ...
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Fair enough and great advices Oliver, as all yours always are. Again, I am one of guilty ones for moaning to be taught not only about bidding but other aspects of this game, while fully aware that what you've done and still do is already LOTS. Do u blame me for trying? ; )
Funny people say what u stated over in the quote.. As if we simplify things, each of us will declare 25% of hands, smoke while dummy in another 25% and defend in 50% of boards played.
But wait!.. they'll have to BID in all 100%  ;D


--- Quote from: kiwi_2o1 on March 31, 2017, 07:21:22 AM ---Software. I would recommend ..
As for books, two I'd recommend ...
Generally I've found in our group, too many want to just play and spend little or no time at the table discussing play and defence. And many get very defensive if one asks to talk over plays etc. Just playing for fun is fine but if one is serious enough about the game to use OCP then improving card play has to match it.
OK what can the family do about it?
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Each one of us may learn on different speed and prefer different methods, and all u mentioned are excellent. My best friend, Jack (bridge software) is too old and I can't teach him to play OCP, how dissapointing!! But from the other side, u can "learn" methods with ur imaginary bot comput friend and when u apply those at the table to real pard, u get them in shock (see LST discussion).
At least we novices must learn lose fear of unknown, that we still feel toward OCP. Practicing bidding with collegue from OCP class helps tons imo. And move to play only when feel at least little confident. Others disagree, I know : )

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